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▶ 💬 Guemara The entire mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon; the first part of the latter clause is stated with …
The entire mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon; the first part of the latter clause is stated with regard to a jointly owned courtyard, which under the terms of their partnership is designated for the use of one of them, i.e., the injured party, to keep his produce there, and for this one and for that one to keep their oxen there. Accordingly, with regard to damage of the category of Eating caused by one partner’s ox to the injured party’s produce in that courtyard, it is equivalent to the case of a courtyard owned exclusively by the injured party, and the ox’s owner is liable for all the damage. But with regard to damage of the category of Goring, since they are both allowed to keep oxen there, the courtyard is equivalent to a public domain, and if one’s innocuous ox causes damage there, one is liable for only half the cost of the damage. Rav Kahana said: I stated this teaching of Rabbi Elazar before Rav Zevid of Neharde’a, and he said to me: Are you really able to interpret that the entire mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon? But doesn’t the mishna teach: Concerning acts of damage performed with the tooth, the animal is considered forewarned with regard to eating that which is fitting for it to eat. This indicates that only if what it eats is fitting for it, then yes, one is liable for the full cost of the damage, but if it eats something that is not fitting for it, the owner would not be liable for the full cost of the damage, but only for half the cost of the damage. Rav Kahana explains his difficulty: And if the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon, the owner should be liable to pay the full cost of the damage even if his animal ate something not fitting for it, as doesn’t Rabbi Tarfon say: The halakha of cases of Goring performed by an innocuous animal, which is atypical, done in the courtyard of the injured party, is that the owner of the ox pays the full cost of the damage even if the ox is innocuous. Rather, Rav Kahana said: Actually it must be that the entire mishna is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis and the mishna is incomplete and this is what it is teaching: The opening clause should be understood as saying: There are five damage-causing acts that animals can perform twice and remain innocuous, but if they were warned for performing those acts three times, with regard to the five acts they are considered forewarned, i.e., the mishna is not referring to two different sets of damages, five acts for which the animal is considered innocuous and five for which it is considered forewarned. Rather, both statements in the initial clause of the mishna are referring to the same five acts of Goring, and they teach that although the animal is initially considered innocuous with regard to these five acts, it can become forewarned. The next part of the mishna then provides another halakha: But for damage of the categories of Eating and Trampling, an animal is considered forewarned from the outset. The next two items in the mishna: A forewarned ox and an ox that causes damage on the property of the injured party, should be understood as a question and an answer: And where does their forewarned status with regard to these acts apply? It applies in the courtyard of the injured party. According to Rav Kahana’s explanation, the statement: In the courtyard of the injured party, refers only to cases of Eating or Trampling, not to acts classified as Goring, and therefore it is true even according to the opinion of the Rabbis. Ravina objects to this explanation: Doesn’t the mishna below (24b) teach: With regard to the case of an ox that causes damage to the property of the injured party on the property of the injured party, stated in the mishna here (15b), how so, i.e., what are the circumstances in which one is liable to pay the full cost of the damage? The mishna below (24b) proceeds to list acts of damage classified as Goring. Ravina states his objection: Granted, if you say that the mishna here (15b) discusses that case, i.e., that it is referring to Goring, it is due to that ruling that the mishna below teaches: How so, and proceeds to discuss one’s liability for Goring, as it is elucidating the case mentioned in the mishna here. But if you say, as Rav Zevid suggests, that the mishna here (15b) does not discuss Goring, what is the meaning of the mishna below when it asks: How so, and then proceeds to discuss one’s liability for Goring? Rather, Ravina said: The mishna is incomplete and this is what it is teaching: There are five damage-causing acts that animals can perform twice and remain innocuous, but if they were warned for performing those acts three times with regard to the five acts, they are considered forewarned. The next part of the mishna then provides another halakha: But for damage of the categories of Eating and Trampling, an animal is considered forewarned from the outset, and this is a case in which all agree that the animal is classified as a forewarned ox. And there is the case of an ox that causes damage to the property of the injured party, on the property of the injured party, which is subject to a dispute between Rabbi Tarfon and the Rabbis. And there are other cases similar to these in which animals are considered forewarned from the outset, namely: The wolf, the lion, the bear, the leopard, the bardelas, and the snake. The Gemara notes: This interpretation of the mishna is also taught in a baraita: There are five damage-causing acts that animals can perform twice and remain innocuous, but if they were warned for performing those acts three times with regard to the five acts, they are considered forewarned. The next part of the mishna then provides another halakha: But for damage of the categories of Eating and Trampling, an animal is considered forewarned from the outset, and this is a case in which all agree that the animal is classified as a forewarned ox. And there is the case of an ox that causes damage to the property of the injured party, on the property of the injured party, which is subject to a dispute between Rabbi Tarfon and the Rabbis. And there are other cases similar to these in which animals are considered forewarned from the outset, namely: The wolf, the lion, the bear, the leopard, the bardelas, and the snake. There are those who raise this issue as a contradiction and through doing so arrived at the same conclusions, as follows: We learned in the opening clause of the mishna: There are five damage-causing acts that animals can perform twice and remain innocuous, and there are five damage-causing acts for which an animal is considered forewarned. With regard to this, one can ask: But is there nothing else? But aren’t there the cases mentioned in the continuation of the mishna: The wolf, the lion, the bear, the leopard, the bardelas, and the snake? These are considered to be forewarned even if they had never caused damage before. And they resolve the contradiction through that which Ravina said: The mishna is incomplete and this is what it is teaching: There are five damage-causing acts that animals can perform twice and remain innocuous, but if they were warned for performing those acts three times with regard to the five acts, they are considered forewarned. The next part of the mishna then provides another halakha: But for damage of the categories of Eating and Trampling, an animal is considered forewarned from the outset, and this is a case in which all agree that the animal is classified as a forewarned ox. And there is the case of an ox that causes damage to the property of the injured party, on the property of the injured party, which is subject to a dispute between Rabbi Tarfon and the Rabbis. And there are other cases similar to these in which animals are considered forewarned from the outset, namely: The wolf, the lion, the bear, the leopard, the bardelas, and the snake. § The mishna teaches: An animal is not considered forewarned with regard to Goring, i.e., not for goring with its horns, nor for pushing with its body, nor for biting, nor for crouching upon items in order to damage them. Rabbi Elazar says: They taught this only with regard to large vessels, as it is atypical for an animal to crouch upon them, and therefore the act is classified as a subcategory of Goring. But if the animal crouched upon small vessels, since that is its typical manner of behavior, it is classified as a subcategory of Trampling, for which the animal is considered forewarned from the outset. The Gemara suggests: Let us say that the following baraita supports the opinion of Rabbi Elazar: An animal is considered forewarned, from the outset, to walk in its typical manner and to break or crush a person, or an animal, or vessels. The baraita indicates that an animal’s typical manner is to crush vessels, presumably by crouching down upon them. This would seem to contradict the mishna that states that such behavior is atypical. It would appear the only resolution to this contradiction is if one accepts the distinction made by Rabbi Elazar that the mishna concerns large vessels and the baraita concerns small vessels. The Gemara rejects this: Perhaps the baraita concerns a case where the animal pushed against the utensils from the side and crushed them against a wall, but it does not concern a case where it crouched upon them. There are those who say a different version of this discussion, as follows: Rabbi Elazar says: Do not say that the mishna’s ruling refers only to large vessels, as it is atypical for an animal to crouch upon them, but if the animal crouched upon small vessels, that is its typical manner and for that type of damage the animal is considered forewarned. Rather, the mishna refers even to small vessels, as it is atypical for an animal to crouch upon them. The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita: An animal is considered forewarned, from the outset, to walk in its typical manner and to break or crush a person, or an animal, or vessels. Rabbi Elazar said: Perhaps the baraita concerns only a case where the animal pushed against the utensils from the side and crushed them against a wall. There are those who raise this issue as a contradiction: We learned in the mishna: An animal is not considered forewarned with regard to Goring, i.e., not for goring with its horns, nor for pushing with its body, nor for biting, nor for crouching upon items in order to damage them. But isn’t it taught in a baraita: An animal is considered forewarned, from the outset, to walk in its typical manner and to break or crush a person, or an animal, or vessels? In order to resolve this contradiction, Rabbi Elazar said: It is not difficult; here, in the mishna, the reference is to large vessels, while there, in the baraita, the reference is to small vessels. § The mishna teaches: The wolf, the lion, the bear, the leopard, the bardelas, and the snake; these are considered to be forewarned even if they had never caused damage before. The Gemara asks: What is a bardelas? Rav Yehuda said: It is a nafreza. The Gemara asks: What is a nafreza? Rav Yosef said: It is an appa. The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita: In addition to the list of animals that are considered forewarned, Rabbi Meir says: Also the hyena [tzavo’a]. Rabbi Elazar says: Also the snake. And Rav Yosef said in explanation of the baraita: The hyena mentioned by Rabbi Meir, this is the animal called an appa. If Rav Yosef understands a hyena to be an appa, how could he also claim, above, that it is a bardelas? The Gemara explains: It is not difficult: Here, in the baraita, Rabbi Meir is referring to a male hyena, and there, in the mishna, the reference is to a female hyena. And it is apparent that a male hyena is distinct from a female one, as it is taught in a baraita: A male hyena after seven years metamorphoses into an insectivorous bat [atalef ]; an insectivorous bat after seven years metamorphoses into a herbivorous bat [arpad]; a herbivorous bat after seven years metamorphoses into a thistle [kimosh]; a thistle after seven years metamorphoses into a briar [ḥo’aḥ]; and a briar after seven years metamorphoses into a demon. Similarly, a person’s spine, seven years after his death, metamorphoses into a snake. The Gemara qualifies the last statement: And this matter applies only to a case where that person did not bow during the blessing of thanksgiving, the eighteenth blessing of the Amida prayer. The Gemara analyzes the baraita: The Master says above: In addition to the list of animals that are considered forewarned, Rabbi Meir says: Also the hyena.
▶ 🇫🇷 Résumé en français Toute la mishna est conforme à l'opinion de Rabbi Tarfon ; la première partie de la dernière clause est énoncée en ce qu…
Toute la mishna est conforme à l'opinion de Rabbi Tarfon ; la première partie de la dernière clause est énoncée en ce qui concerne une cour en copropriété, qui, selon les termes de leur partenariat, est désignée pour l'usage de l'un d'eux, c'est-à-dire la partie lésée, pour y garder ses produits, et pour celui-ci et pour celui-là pour y garder leurs bœufs. En conséquence, en ce qui concerne le dommage de la catégorie de Manger causé par le bœuf d'un associé aux produits de la partie lésée dans cette cour, cela équivaut au cas d'une cour possédée exclusivement par la partie lésée, et le propriétaire du bœuf est responsable de tout le dommage. Mais en ce qui concerne le dommage de la catégorie de Donner des coups de corne, puisqu'ils sont tous deux autorisés à garder des bœufs là, la cour équivaut à un domaine public, et si le bœuf innocent de l'un cause un dommage là, on n'est responsable que de la moitié du coût du dommage. Rav Kahana a dit : J'ai énoncé cet enseignement de Rabbi Elazar devant Rav Zevid de Neharde'a, et il m'a dit : Es-tu vraiment capable d'interpréter que toute la mishna est conforme à l'opinion de Rabbi Tarfon ? Mais la mishna n'enseigne-t-elle pas : Concernant les actes de dommage accomplis avec la dent, l'animal est considéré comme averti en ce qui concerne le fait de manger ce qui lui convient. Cela indique que seulement si ce qu'il mange lui convient, alors oui, on est responsable du coût intégral du dommage, mais s'il mange quelque chose qui ne lui convient pas, le propriétaire ne serait pas responsable du coût intégral du dommage, mais seulement de la moitié du coût du dommage. Rav Kahana explique sa difficulté : Et si la mishna est conforme à l'opinion de Rabbi Tarfon, le propriétaire devrait être responsable de payer le coût intégral du dommage même si son animal a mangé quelque chose qui ne lui convient pas, car Rabbi Tarfon ne dit-il pas : La halakha des cas de Donner des coups de corne accomplis par un animal innocent, qui est atypique, dans la cour de la partie lésée, est que le propriétaire du bœuf paie le coût intégral du dommage même si le bœuf est innocent. Plutôt, Rav Kahana a dit : En fait, il doit en être que toute la mishna est conforme à l'opinion des Rabbins et la mishna est incomplète et voici ce qu'elle enseigne : La clause d'ouverture doit être comprise comme disant : Il y a cinq actes causant des dommages que les animaux peuvent accomplir deux fois et rester innocents, mais s'ils ont été avertis pour avoir accompli ces actes trois fois, en ce qui concerne les cinq actes, ils sont considérés comme avertis, c'est-à-dire que la mishna ne fait pas référence à deux ensembles différents de dommages, cinq actes pour lesquels l'animal est considéré comme innocent et cinq pour lesquels il est considéré comme averti. Plutôt, les deux déclarations dans la clause initiale de la mishna se réfèrent aux mêmes cinq actes de Donner des coups de corne, et elles enseignent que bien que l'animal soit initialement considéré comme innocent en ce qui concerne ces cinq actes, il peut devenir averti. La partie suivante de la mishna fournit ensuite une autre halakha : Mais pour les dommages des catégories de Manger et de Piétiner, un animal est considéré comme averti dès le départ. Les deux éléments suivants de la mishna : Un bœuf averti et un bœuf qui cause un dommage sur la propriété de la partie lésée, doivent être compris comme une question et une réponse : Et où leur statut d'averti en ce qui concerne ces actes s'applique-t-il ? Il s'applique dans la cour de la partie lésée. Selon l'explication de Rav Kahana, la déclaration : Dans la cour de la partie lésée, se réfère seulement aux cas de Manger ou de Piétiner, pas aux actes classés comme Donner des coups de corne, et donc elle est vraie même selon l'opinion des Rabbins. Ravina s'oppose à cette explication : La mishna ci-dessous (24b) n'enseigne-t-elle pas : En ce qui concerne le cas d'un bœuf qui cause un dommage à la propriété de la partie lésée sur la propriété de la partie lésée, énoncé dans la mishna ici (15b), comment cela, c'est-à-dire quelles sont les circonstances dans lesquelles on est responsable de payer le coût intégral du dommage ? La mishna ci-dessous (24b) procède à énumérer les actes de dommage classés comme Donner des coups de corne. Ravina énonce son objection : Accordé, si tu dis que la mishna ici (15b) discute de ce cas, c'est-à-dire qu'elle se réfère à Donner des coups de corne, c'est à cause de cette décision que la mishna ci-dessous enseigne : Comment cela, et procède à discuter de la responsabilité pour Donner des coups de corne, car elle élucide le cas mentionné dans la mishna ici. Mais si tu dis, comme Rav Zevid le suggère, que la mishna ici (15b) ne discute pas de Donner des coups de corne, quel est le sens de la mishna ci-dessous quand elle demande : Comment cela, et puis procède à discuter de la responsabilité pour Donner des coups de corne ? Plutôt, Ravina a dit : La mishna est incomplète et voici ce qu'elle enseigne : Il y a cinq actes causant des dommages que les animaux peuvent accomplir deux fois et rester innocents, mais s'ils ont été avertis pour avoir accompli ces actes trois fois en ce qui concerne les cinq actes, ils sont considérés comme avertis. La partie suivante de la mishna fournit ensuite une autre halakha : Mais pour les dommages des catégories de Manger et de Piétiner, un animal est considéré comme averti dès le départ, et c'est un cas dans lequel tous conviennent que l'animal est classé comme un bœuf averti. Et il y a le cas d'un bœuf qui cause un dommage à la propriété de la partie lésée, sur la propriété de la partie lésée, qui est sujet à un différend entre Rabbi Tarfon et les Rabbins. Et il y a d'autres cas similaires à ceux-ci dans lesquels les animaux sont considérés comme avertis dès le départ, à savoir : Le loup, le lion, l'ours, le léopard, le bardelas, et le serpent. La Guemara note : Cet enseignement de la mishna est également enseigné dans une baraita : Il y a cinq actes causant des dommages que les animaux peuvent accomplir deux fois et rester innocents, mais s'ils ont été avertis pour avoir accompli ces actes trois fois en ce qui concerne les cinq actes, ils sont considérés comme avertis. La partie suivante de la mishna fournit ensuite une autre halakha : Mais pour les dommages des catégories de Manger et de Piétiner, un animal est considéré comme averti dès le départ, et c'est un cas dans lequel tous conviennent que l'animal est classé comme un bœuf averti. Et il y a le cas d'un bœuf qui cause un dommage à la propriété de la partie lésée, sur la propriété de la partie lésée, qui est sujet à un différend entre Rabbi Tarfon et les Rabbins. Et il y a d'autres cas similaires à ceux-ci dans lesquels les animaux sont considérés comme avertis dès le départ, à savoir : Le loup, le lion, l'ours, le léopard, le bardelas, et le serpent. Il y a ceux qui soulèvent cette question comme une contradiction et en le faisant arrivent aux mêmes conclusions, comme suit : Nous avons appris dans la clause d'ouverture de la mishna : Il y a cinq actes causant des dommages que les animaux peuvent accomplir deux fois et rester innocents, et il y a cinq actes causant des dommages pour lesquels un animal est considéré comme averti. En ce qui concerne cela, on peut demander : Mais n'y a-t-il rien d'autre ? Mais n'y a-t-il pas les cas mentionnés dans la continuation de la mishna : Le loup, le lion, l'ours, le léopard, le bardelas, et le serpent ? Ceux-ci sont considérés comme avertis même s'ils n'ont jamais causé de dommage auparavant. Et ils résolvent la contradiction à travers ce que Ravina a dit :
Le débat entre Rabbi Tarfon et les Sages sur la responsabilité en domaine partagé illustre la sagesse de la Torah à adapter la justice aux circonstances (Exode 21:35-36). Le Christ, juge parfait, applique cette équité en pesant chaque acte selon la lumière reçue (Luc 12:47-48 ; Jean 5:22).

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